Answers from the Athletes
By
Rob Kaminski
MHSAA benchmarks editor
May 22, 2014
By Rob Kaminski
MHSAA benchmarks editor
MHSAA Student Advisory Council members were asked their opinions on several of the current issues facing the MHSAA Junior High/Middle School Committee and the MHSAA JH/MS Task Force. Students also shared experiences from their junior high/middle school days and from participation with non-school teams. Following is a sampling of responses:
Length of Contests and Seasons
Based on your junior high/middle school experiences, would you favor an increase in the number of contests/events that a junior high/middle school is allowed to play? Would you favor longer game times?
Kiersten Mead, Saginaw Swan Valley: “I personally don't believe that longer seasons are necessary. In middle school, student athletes are just starting to learn how to balance sports and school, so I think that the season time is already pretty reasonable.
“I do, however, believe that longer games would be really beneficial to all ages. It would allow more students to play and participate.”
Jonathan Perry, McBain Northern Michigan Christian: “When I was playing, I wish my season would have been longer, but it is at a reasonable length. It would be harder on parents having a middle school player and a high school player, but it would get you more ready for a high school-length schedule.
“The games are at a reasonable length also. The one benefit of having more games and longer games is that more kids get to play who otherwise might not if they had a shorter game or season.”
Connor Thomas, Marlette: “As a player, I would be totally in favor. If I were an adult, I would say no because of the traveling. As for the lengths of games, again, I’d favor it as a player. But with schools that have A and B teams for both grades, that could be a late night.”
Kristen Law, Bloomfield Hills Andover: “I really enjoyed playing in middle school, and I would have loved to be able to play more. Increasing the length of games might depend on the sport. For tennis, from what I remember, the matches were a shortened version of what we play in high school, and I thought they were appropriate given the level of the majority of the players that were competing.”
Zack Nine, Pinconning: “Based on my middle school sports experience, I would favor an increase in the number of contests and a longer game time. These changes would give athletes who do not get much playing time a chance to gain more experience. I also believe that more games and a longer game length would keep our youth in better shape and better prepare them for high school athletics through an easier transition.”
Mandy Paull, Cheboygan: “I think that middle school sports should be allowed to play more games, but I do not think that the length of games should be increased.”
Coby Ryan Manistique: “I would favor an increase in the number of contests. The seasons are quite short and go by too quickly, in my opinion.
“I would also favor longer game times. With this, more kids will get the opportunity to play, and it will also make the travel and the time invested more worthwhile.”
6th-Grade Participation
Is it time to also include 6th-graders at junior high/middle schools under MHSAA guidelines? Consider enrollments, sports and participation with 7th- and 8th-graders.
Eliza Beird, Holland Black River: “I would favor the addition of 6th-graders in all sports. This would allow for the possibility of two teams in some sports and it gets the kids playing with people they might be playing with for the rest of their high school careers.
“It is definitely easier to put 6th-graders with 7th- and 8th-graders at a smaller school because one grade usually won’t out-number another grade. In a big school, a bunch of 8th-graders will try out for the team because more go to a school. In larger schools, 6th-graders would have a chance to make only a 6th-grade team.
Hayden Smith, Hamilton: “I think it’s time for 6th-graders to be included, but not in all sports; just the non-contact ones. The various sizes of schools would make it easier for some to compete and harder for others, but it shouldn’t matter overall. All schools’ 6th-graders should be able to play. I think that would be a great experience for them.”
Mandy Paull, Cheboygan: “I think that 6th-grade students should be able to play middle school sports. Sports are a good way to initiate incoming elementary students to the middle school as well as provide a fun, constructive activity that they can participate in with their friends, and a way to make new ones as well.
“The 6th-grade athletes should only be mixed with the 7th and 8th grade in cross country and track, and have their own teams for sports like volleyball and basketball, just as the 7th- and 8th- graders do. Only non-contact sports should mix all grades.”
Connor Thomas, Marlette: “Coming from a smaller community, I think the MHSAA should include 6th-graders in only the schools that need them, such as small Class D schools. They should be allowed to play with 7th- and 8th-graders as long as the schools need them, and aren't bringing them up to have a ‘dream team.’ Enrollment has to be a factor; the schools should be struggling for numbers in order to have a 6th-grader on a team.”
Zack Nine, Pinconning: “I believe that 6th- graders should not be held accountable to MHSAA regulations. My opinion largely stems from the fact that not every school includes 6th grade as part of its middle school. I know mine does not. It would be difficult to regulate the participation of 6th-graders in some schools (because they're considered middle schoolers) while other schools cannot let their 6th-grade elementary students compete.”
Jonathan Perry, McBain Northern Michigan Christian: “I think all sports should be included if 6th-graders were allowed to play. I think it’s more helpful to small schools, but wouldn’t limit it based on enrollment. I go to a small school; last year my school did not have enough kids for a 7th-grade team.”
Kiersten Mead, Saginaw Swan Valley: “I understand the monetary considerations schools may have with 6th-grade teams through the MHSAA, but I do believe that the MHSAA should start setting guidelines for the schools which see it as feasible. Middle schools don't have to go through the MHSAA, but I believe that by including 6th-graders, it may generate a positive reaction from member schools.
“I feel like as long as the coaches don't see a major physical disadvantage to it, then it would be okay for 6th-graders to participate with the 7th and 8th grade in all sports. Non-contact sports would most definitely be alright, because in high school, you compete against all ages anyways.
Coby Ryan Manistique: “I believe that it is time for 6th-graders to get the chance to participate in athletics, regardless of school size. By choice, a child should always be given the opportunity to be active, stay out of trouble, learn about teamwork and leadership, and build a foundation for fundamentals that will be used for the rest of their athletic careers. Many schools do not have locally run programs, and the MHSAA running it would give thousands more kids a chance to play.”
Kristen Law, Bloomfield Hills Andover: “When I was in 6th grade, I was competing against 7th- and 8th-graders (on community teams), and I probably would have been upset if I couldn't compete against them. Sixth-grade participation should definitely be allowed in non-contact sports, but I don't know too much about contact sports and the risk of injury to 6th-graders if it were to be allowed.
“I don't think the size of the school should determine whether or not 6th-graders can compete against 7th- and 8th-graders.”
Community and Club Sports
If you played community sports during your JH/MS years, how did the experience compare with school sports? If you could have played MHSAA-based sports in 6th grade, would you have done so?
Emileigh Ferguson, Bear Lake: “I played little league softball prior to middle school, until 5th grade. I prefer MHSAA sports over other kinds because they are more serious and organized. My school has basketball for 5th and 6th grade so we don’t play with middle school.”
Eliza Beird, Holland Black River: “I played soccer and basketball from Kindergarten through 6th grade and still play club sports. My outside-of-school sports tended to be a bit better.
“If there were MHSAA sports in 6th grade, I would have definitely played basketball. I already played with a bunch of girls from school so playing for my school would not have been much different. Plus it’s fun to play for my school. I probably would not have played soccer because the club team I was on at the time was quite a bit better than the school team.”
Hayden Smith, Hamilton: “In my experience (community sports) was somewhat similar, but still different. School sports weren't coached by parents anymore; the best players got to start. Also, it was different in that a lot of kids stopped playing; only the ones who really liked it kept playing. However, it was similar because there were always people (parents and kids) complaining about playing time. It was similar in that there was always a strong community at your back.
“If I could have played school sports earlier, I would have done so because of the aspect of representing my community and school. I think I still would have done the travel baseball stuff, but that is always in the summer.”
Mandy Paull, Cheboygan: “I played girls little league softball from 3rd to 5th grade, and house hockey from 1st grade to 9th. In middle school the sports were more serious and I enjoyed them much more. As a team we would dress up for our games, and we got to travel on a bus to away games. There was a much stronger bond and all the players were more serious. The teams were also better in middle school due to tryouts.
“I definitely would have played middle school sports in 6th grade as opposed to community teams.”
Jonathan Perry, McBain Northern Michigan Christian: “I did not notice a huge difference between community sports and school sports. The big difference in community sports is that you get a wide range of kids, not just the kids in your school. I like playing the school sports better because I knew that the kids I was playing with were who I would play high school sports with.
“I would have played school sports in 6th-grade or earlier if the option was there. A lot of community sports I played on (were) all about winning. The school team sports provide learning sessions for both sports and life. It's an extension of the classroom. I saw that more with school sports than community sports.”
Kiersten Mead, Saginaw Swan Valley: “I did not play anything prior to middle school, but in 6th grade I was a part of an AAU volleyball team since my school did not offer a 6th-grade team. I also bowled in leagues at a few different bowling alleys.
“I definitely would have played with my school versus community. We really didn't have a solid AAU program in our area so the school team was much more organized. I found that the volleyball teams through my school were much more beneficial to me. We practiced on a regular basis, and it was nice to play with girls that I was already friends with. We were able to grow more as a team and gain a greater sense of unity. I believe that my school team made me a better athlete as well.”
Kristen Law, Bloomfield Hills Andover: “I enjoyed being able to play sports with my friends in middle school, but I also liked the competitiveness of the community- based sports I participated in. The middle school sports atmosphere didn't feel as competitive.
“When I was in 6th grade, I played tennis on the middle school team, but it was not affiliated with the MHSAA.”
'Reloaded' Yale Section Brings Noise Again
January 19, 2016
By Geoff Kimmerly
Second Half editor
YALE – For eight years, Yale’s student section has borne his name – out of respect and also a desire to emulate the intensity of the leader of one of the school’s most successful teams.
Bulldogs boys basketball coach Garnett Kohler has made sure the leaders of “Kohler’s Kids” know he wants the section to be their thing and its direction based on their decisions.
But he’s also made it known he – like many in the community – is a fan of theirs as well.
“He pulled me aside and said he heard I was one of the leaders this year. He said, ‘I wanted you to know you’re part of the basketball family this year, and you’ve got to represent well,’” senior Austin Mabry said. “It was a lot to take in.”
And also recognition for what Kohler’s Kids have become, especially over the last two seasons, as supporters and homecourt advantage providers for the school’s boys basketball team.
Yale’s student section is in the running again to become known as Michigan’s top high school student section as the lone returning finalist for this season’s Battle of the Fans V. The MHSAA kicked off its finalists tour Friday with Yale’s boys basketball game against Armada. Visits are scheduled over the next month to Muskegon Western Michigan Christian, Traverse City West, Munising and Charlotte leading up to the naming of this year’s champion Feb. 19. The public may vote for its favorite on the MHSAA’s Facebook, Twitter and Instagram sites beginning Feb. 16, with the MHSAA Student Advisory Council taking that vote into consideration when selecting the champion after that vote has concluded.
Roughly 400 students including a few rows of middle schoolers filled a quarter of Yale’s gym Friday night, similar to last year’s BOTF visit – but also with a few key differences.
First, the section’s got a new name, as is tradition (as long as Kohler’s is part of it). But this name actually is an old one. Yale’s students took on the name Kohler’s Kids when the coach was hired in 2010, then evolved to Kohler’s Krew and Kohler’s Krazies last year before returning to their roots this season as Kohler’s Kids Reloaded.
Most noticeably, the section now includes a band – and not just a small group of pep players filling in. Roughly 50 band members anchored the edge of the section, providing another layer of sound to the roar that’s become synonymous with Kohler’s Krew/Krazies/Kids – and earned them mention with a “Bring the Noise Award” during Battle of the Fans IV.
They’ve been bringing the noise on social media like never before as well. On Twitter, @yalesquad has become the mode of communication not just to announce theme nights as in past years, but also as the main way to keep the large following revved and in line – not the easiest task when trying to point a few hundred classmates in the same direction.
Also different: Leadership. The group running the show this season is almost entirely different than a large group of mostly now-graduates who put Yale’s section on the cheering map last winter – and that effective passing of the reins will continue to benefit the section for years to come.
The six leaders this winter also are athletes – four play football, a few play baseball, one plays volleyball and another golf. Senior Rachel Stawecki was part of the main leadership group last year and is joined by Mabry, seniors Joey Moza and Kyle Avery and juniors Brett Bollaert and Emily Kaatz. They’ve all been part of the big push over the last three years to make the section more than the informal group of upperclassmen that comprised the earlier versions, along the way earning their move into the front row of the bleachers.
Theirs is an enviable position and now comes with a succession plan, as seniors “will” leadership of the section to those expected to follow. But it’s more than that. This year’s leaders continue also-enviable strong relationships with principal Paul Flynn and athletic director Maureen Klocke that go a long way toward ensuring the section will have its current freedom in the future.
“We don’t want to do anything that the administration doesn’t like, because everybody in the school likes doing it,” Kaatz said.
“We’re trying to represent Yale. We don’t want to mess up the opportunities (for the future),” Moza added.
And that means sticking to what has become the identity of a section loved at home and much less so by opponents.
“This has been a few years in the making; we’ve got a great student body at Yale that really supports each other,” Kohler told the Port Huron Times Herald last week. “And our basketball kids kind of thrive off of that.”
For starters, Kohler’s Kids are as loud as ever. As described during the 2015 visit, opposing players often can’t hear the direction of their coaches. Yale’s players and coaches have developed hand signals as well.
The “Kids” are many in number especially for the boys games, spelling out what’s written on the back of their student section shirts: “You get them, you get us.”
And the quest to show sportsmanship, detailed on a banner hanging in the gym, is more than just a line from the administration. Yale students, Avery said, would rather try to affect a game by being loud, but positive, and have more fun doing the “chop” and “dab” than attacking opponents or getting into student section wars with some that try to provoke them.
Moza called it the “attitude of Yale” and all about respect. “Sportsmanship has always been our thing. And we hate when other teams are nasty,” Avery added. “They still don’t get into the players’ heads like we do, and we never say a negative thing.”
Avery and the rest would be crushed if the section, and that attitude, faded after they’re gone. Instead, they anticipate the section will continue to grow.
Despite the large numbers, leaders guess that only 50-60 percent of the student body is involved. But they also have seen signs that more students are interested in taking part – and that the section, this year reloaded, will have an easy time continuing to do so in the future.
“There are so many kids in our grade who are already so hyped about it and already into it. I don’t think we’ll have any problem getting a big group of people,” Kaatz said.
“Because it’s something that everybody works on,” Moza said. “It just keeps getting bigger. It’s going to keep going.”
PHOTOS: (Top) Yale's "Kohler's Kids" cheer for their classmates as the Bulldogs defend against Armada on Friday. (Middle) Roughly 400 students cheered together during this season's Battle of the Fans visit. (Photos by Lisa DePelsMaeker.)