Inside Selection Sunday: Mapnalysis 2012
October 24, 2012
By Geoff Kimmerly
Second Half editor
Between double checking data for more than a third of our 626 football teams, and creating 136 first-round games for our most popular tournament, the morning of MHSAA football "Selection Sunday" is both one of the most exciting and nerve-wracking of the school year.
So for those scratching their heads the last few days over how we picked the brackets this season, I offer one question and one warning:
How would you have done so differently?
And before you answer, remember that moving the position of one school affects at least seven more – if not all 32 in that division.
This was the second year I was involved in the football selection process, which while appearing simple on its face actually is layered with hours of discussions, calculations, checking and re-checking, and anything else we at the MHSAA can do to make sure we’ve created the best tournament possible.
Simply put, it’s more than just drawing circles and calling them good.
Below are a brief description of what we do, the history behind the process, and some challenges we face each time we draw these brackets – including some examples of our toughest this time around.
The process
Our past: The MHSAA playoff structure – with 256 teams in eight divisions, and six wins equaling an automatic berth – debuted in 1999. An 8-player tournament was added in 2011, resulting in nine champions total when November is done.
That’s a long way from our start. The first playoffs were conducted in 1975 with four champions. Four more football classes were added in 1990 for a total of eight champions each fall. Through 1998, only 128 teams made the postseason, based on their playoff point averages within regions (four for each class) that were drawn before the beginning of the season. The drawing of Districts and Regions after the end of the regular season did not begin until the most recent playoff expansion.
In early years of the current process (or until the middle of the last decade), lines were drawn by hand. Dots representing qualifying schools were pasted on maps, one map for each division, and those maps were then covered by plastic sheets. Districts and Regionals literally were drawn with dry-erase markers.
Our present: After a late Saturday night tracking scores, we file in as the sun rises Sunday morning for a final round of gathering results we may still need (which can include making a few early a.m. calls to athletic directors). Then comes re-checking and triple-checking of enrollments, co-ops, some records and more before the numbers are crunched and the field of 256 is set.
Those teams are then split into eight equal divisions based on enrollment, and their locations are marked on digital maps that are projected on wall-size screens and then discussed by nearly half of the MHSAA staff plus a representative from the Michigan High School Football Coaches Association. Only the locations themselves are marked (by yellow dots) – not records, playoff points averages or names of the schools or towns. In fact, mentions of those are strictly prohibited. Records and playoff points are not part of the criteria. Matchups, rivalries, previous playoff pairings, etc. also DO NOT come into play.
Geography rules: Drawing Districts and Regionals is all about location. Travel distance and ease DO come into play. Yes, ease is important. Schools near the same major highway might be further from each other in mileage than other options but have a better trip. A good example this year is in Division 6, which has seven teams in the U.P. and the northern Lower Peninsula. That meant Shelby needed to be included with those teams to make eight, and left Montague to a District that includes Hemlock – more than halfway across the Lower Peninsula. But at least, in this case, much of that trip will be on one roadway, M-46.
There is certainly conversation about every possible option. The staff splits into two groups, each handling four divisions (plus one of the groups handles 8-player too), and then the entire committee comes together to view all nine maps. There wasn’t one division where the group as a whole said, “That looks great, what’s next?”
Observations and answers
A different ballgame: I was asked whatever happened to Districts, meaning teams opening with opponents nearby. Remember that with eight divisions and 32 teams in each, the difference between maximum and minimum enrollments for each division is smaller than it used to be with just four classes, and the probability of finding two schools in the same division next door to each other is lower. This is especially true for our smaller schools, and those pairings are more spread out. Division 7 provides an excellent example. Opponents Dansville and Ottawa Lake Whiteford are 84 miles apart. But in another option considered, Dansville would’ve played Gobles – and those two are separated by 114 miles.
Points still matter: And that means strength of schedule is a big factor. After Districts are drawn, playoff point average determines the home team for those two games and Regionals as well. There are five Districts in which the team with the best or second-best record did not get home games because those teams’ playoff point averages ranked third among the four teams in those brackets. A number of other Districts have 8-1 teams playing at other 8-1 teams. It’s true: there are times a school can’t help the opponents it plays, because of league affiliation perhaps, and they have no control over how an opponent does the rest of the season. But a Class B team playing in a league with Class D schools can’t expect to compare averages well against teams in their division who face similarly-sized opponents during the regular season.
No boating: This didn’t come up last season, but did twice Sunday. We had to decide if it was a better trip for teams in the thumb to go around Saginaw Bay to play northern opponents, or instead send teams a little bit south of the thumb but with a straight shots north. As the bird flies, the thumb teams were closer in some cases. But I’ve never heard of a team hopping into a boat to get to a playoff game.
The fifth wheels: The toughest lines to draw are around areas with five schools in the same division. Remember, Districts come in fours, and one dot affects the rest. The Grand Rapids area gave us tough calls because of five teams in Divisions 2 and 4. The same was true in the southwest corner in Division 7 and the southeast corner in Division 6. No matter how we circled it, one of those teams got stuck with a longer trip. This time, that group included Caledonia, Grand Rapids South Christian, Blissfield and Gobles.
It’s easy to say certain areas of these maps should’ve been drawn differently. But again, keep in mind a statewide view.
Some of our pairings could create gigantic matchups earlier in the playoffs than those teams might like. But again, who is to decide which teams are the best and which matchups most “gigantic” before they prove it on the field? At least three teams touted during this fall as potentially the best in the state this season didn’t even win their conference titles.
And as I said in this analysis last year, determining the playoff schedule is just one step in many. Nine MHSAA champions must survive until the end, regardless of which opponents they face along the way.
Their journeys begin Friday.
2024 MHSAA Football Playoff Pairings Announced
By
Geoff Kimmerly
MHSAA.com senior editor
October 27, 2024
Here are the pairings for the 2024 MHSAA Football Playoffs, which begin Nov. 1-2 with District Semifinals in the 11-Player Playoffs and Regional Semifinals in the 8-Player Playoffs.
Teams were divided into divisions before the start of play this fall. The top 32 teams in each division in 11-player and top 16 per division in 8-player, based on playoff-point average, were selected to the field. For 11-player, qualifiers were then divided into four regions with eight teams apiece, and for 8-player qualifiers were divided into four regions with four teams in each.
Pairings for the first three weeks of the tournament are based on regular-season playoff point averages, with the highest-ranked team hosting, regardless of the distance between the two schools. For 11-Player District Semifinal and 8-Player Regional Semifinal play, the top-seeded team in each bracket will host the fourth-seeded team, and the second-seeded team will host the third-seeded team.
District Finals for 11-player and Regional Finals for 8-player will follow during the weekend of Nov. 8-9, and the weekend of Nov. 15-16 will have Regional Finals in the 11-Player Playoffs and Semifinals in the 8-Player Playoffs. The 8-Player Semifinals will pair the winners of Region 1 vs. Region 2 and the winners of Region 3 vs. Region 4, at the sites of the highest-ranked team.
Semifinal games in the 11-Player Playoffs will take place Nov. 22-23, pairing the winners of Region 1 vs. Region 2 and the winners of Region 3 vs. Region 4. The MHSAA will assign 11-Player Semifinals at neutral sites.
All playoff tickets except for Finals (both 11 and 8-player) will be sold online only via GoFan.
For 11-Player, tickets to District Semifinals and District Finals cost $7, tickets to Regional Finals are $9, and tickets to Semifinals cost $10. For 8-player, tickets for Regional Semifinals are $7, tickets for Regional Finals are $9, and tickets for Semifinals cost $10.
The 8-Player Finals will take place Nov. 23 at Northern Michigan University’s Superior Dome in Marquette, and the 11-Player Finals will be played Nov. 29-30 at Ford Field in Detroit. An all-day ticket for 8-Player Finals costs $10 and includes admission to both games, and an all-day ticket for the 11-Player Finals costs $20 and includes admission to that day’s four games.
The 8-Player Finals will kick off at 11 a.m. for Division 1 and 2 p.m. for Division 2 on Nov. 23.
There is one switch of note this season regarding the schedule for the 11-Player Finals weekend. The first games both days will kick off at 9:30 a.m., with the final games both days tentatively scheduled to begin at 7 p.m.
The 11-Player Finals schedule will be as follows:
Friday, Nov. 29
9:30 a.m. - Division 8
12:30 p.m. - Division 4
4 p.m. - Division 6
7 p.m. - Division 2
Saturday, Nov. 30
9:30 a.m. - Division 7
12:30 p.m. - Division 3
4 p.m. - Division 5
7 p.m. - Division 1
Pairings for both the 11 and 8-Player brackets are as follows:
11-Player Pairings
DIVISION 1
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
East Kentwood (5-4) 58.111 at Hudsonville (8-1) 80.222
Grandville (5-4) 60.778 at Rockford (7-2) 70.472
DISTRICT 2
Kalamazoo Central (6-3) 51.222 at Howell (9-0) 89.333
Grand Ledge (5-4) 55.222 at Brighton (7-2) 72.111
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Lapeer (5-4) 54.444 at Grand Blanc (7-2) 71.889
Oxford (6-3) 69.111 at Davison (7-2) 70.306
DISTRICT 2
Rochester Hills Stoney Creek (5-4) 59.778 at Rochester Adams (7-2) 74.111
Clarkston (6-3) 67.333 at Lake Orion (6-3) 70.778
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Ann Arbor Pioneer (5-4) 53.556 at Belleville (8-1) 78.333
Saline (6-3) 64.889 at Northville (6-3) 66.000
DISTRICT 2
Livonia Stevenson (5-4) 54.333 at Detroit Catholic Central (9-0) 83.611
West Bloomfield (4-5) 57.444 at Novi (5-4) 58.667
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Sterling Heights Stevenson (5-4) 54.111 at Detroit Cass Tech (7-2) 64.444
Dearborn (5-4) 57.667 at Dearborn Fordson (5-4) 58.222
DISTRICT 2
Utica (4-5) 51.333 at Macomb Dakota (8-1) 77.333
Romeo (4-5) 60.667 at Utica Eisenhower (7-2) 73.444
DIVISION 2
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Traverse City West (6-3) 57.556 at Muskegon Mona Shores (8-1) 74.361
Grand Rapids Northview (9-0) 68.444 at Byron Center (8-1) 71.361
DISTRICT 2
Portage Northern (5-4) 56.222 at Portage Central (6-3) 62.222
Lansing Everett (6-3) 60.333 at Mattawan (6-3) 61.222
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Flushing (7-2) 54.444 at Midland (8-1) 71.111
Midland Dow (5-4) 55.667 at Saginaw Heritage (6-3) 60.778
DISTRICT 2
South Lyon East (6-3) 56.472 at Dexter (9-0) 81.222
Milford (7-2) 65.361 at East Lansing (6-3) 67.333
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Orchard Lake St. Mary's (6-3) 57.639 at North Farmington (6-3) 63.667
Farmington (6-3) 59.000 at White Lake Lakeland (6-3) 59.139
DISTRICT 2
Temperance Bedford (5-4) 55.444 at Gibraltar Carlson (8-1) 70.778
Livonia Franklin (5-4) 59.556 at Allen Park (6-3) 62.000
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Ferndale (6-3) 57.556 at Birmingham Groves (9-0) 78.778
Warren Mott (7-2) 60.111 at Birmingham Seaholm (6-3) 63.111
DISTRICT 2
Roseville (7-2) 66.889 at Grosse Pointe South (9-0) 81.444
Warren De La Salle Collegiate (6-2) 67.875 at Port Huron Northern (7-2) 70.333
DIVISION 3
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Bay City John Glenn (5-4) 41.889 at Petoskey (9-0) 66.000
Cadillac (4-5) 44.111 at Mount Pleasant (5-4) 51.889
DISTRICT 2
St. Johns (6-3) 49.333 at DeWitt (9-0) 82.611
Cedar Springs (7-2) 56.111 at Lowell (7-2) 62.444
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Stevensville Lakeshore (3-6) 40.889 at St. Joseph (8-1) 70.222
Zeeland East (5-4) 50.889 at Zeeland West (8-1) 67.917
DISTRICT 2
East Grand Rapids (5-4) 49.889 at Grand Rapids Forest Hills Central (7-2) 65.889
Grand Rapids Kenowa Hills (6-3) 53.111 at Coopersville (6-3) 53.333
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Jackson (4-5) 40.667 at Mason (7-2) 64.000
Linden (4-5) 45.556 at Fenton (7-2) 63.556
DISTRICT 2
Garden City (7-2) 53.778 at Walled Lake Western (9-0) 78.361
Redford Thurston (7-2) 56.111 at Auburn Hills Avondale (6-3) 57.222
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
River Rouge (4-4) 48.542 at Southgate Anderson (7-2) 63.444
Riverview (8-1) 57.000 at Trenton (6-3) 62.028
DISTRICT 2
Warren Fitzgerald (4-5) 42.222 at Detroit Martin Luther King (6-3) 65.417
Grosse Pointe North (4-5) 45.111 at Port Huron (4-5) 49.222
DIVISION 4
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Ludington (7-2) 47.556 at Big Rapids (8-1) 55.111
Whitehall (6-3) 51.111 at Ada Forest Hills Eastern (7-2) 54.778
DISTRICT 2
Hamilton (5-4) 44.556 at Hudsonville Unity Christian (9-0) 72.278
Holland Christian (6-3) 48.778 at Grand Rapids South Christian (5-4) 48.889
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Edwardsburg (6-3) 50.556 at Battle Creek Harper Creek (8-1) 62.000
Paw Paw (8-1) 61.556 at Niles (8-1) 61.667
DISTRICT 2
Lansing Sexton (5-4) 42.889 at Portland (9-0) 60.778
Ionia (6-3) 51.000 at Hastings (8-1) 60.222
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Pinckney (5-4) 45.444 at Chelsea (7-2) 63.444
Parma Western (6-3) 54.889 at Haslett (6-3) 55.222
DISTRICT 2
Ortonville Brandon (6-3) 49.778 at Goodrich (8-1) 63.556
Lake Fenton (6-3) 50.278 at Freeland (8-1) 56.444
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Dearborn Divine Child (6-3) 54.254 at Madison Heights Lamphere (8-1) 65.000
Harper Woods (6-3) 63.556 at Redford Union (8-1) 64.778
DISTRICT 2
Croswell-Lexington (6-3) 46.889 at Marysville (8-1) 55.778
St. Clair (6-3) 47.111 at Macomb Lutheran North (8-1) 48.069
DIVISION 5
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Gladwin (6-3) 43.222 at Kingsford (9-0) 58.111
Clare (7-2) 49.333 at Ogemaw Heights (8-1) 53.889
DISTRICT 2
Howard City Tri County (5-4) 38.444 at Frankenmuth (9-0) 63.667
Saginaw Swan Valley (6-3) 47.000 at Belding (8-1) 54.431
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Muskegon Oakridge (4-5) 35.111 at Grand Rapids West Catholic (6-3) 54.889
Hopkins (6-3) 43.208 at Grand Rapids Catholic Central (5-4) 54.730
DISTRICT 2
South Haven (5-4) 37.222 at Kalamazoo Hackett Catholic Prep (7-2) 49.222
Dowagiac (6-3) 39.486 at Berrien Springs (6-3) 43.111
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Williamston (3-6) 38.000 at Pontiac Notre Dame Prep (7-1) 61.500
Flint Hamady (5-3) 42.028 at Corunna (7-2) 59.222
DISTRICT 2
Richmond (4-5) 37.111 at Armada (8-1) 56.444
Hazel Park (6-3) 37.889 at St. Clair Shores South Lake (5-4) 38.556
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Romulus (4-5) 36.611 at Detroit Lincoln-King (9-0) 42.444
Whitmore Lake (7-2) 37.111 at Ann Arbor Father Gabriel Richard (5-4) 37.472
DISTRICT 2
Detroit Denby (6-3) 36.667 at Flat Rock (7-2) 47.222
Detroit Voyageur College Prep (7-2) 44.611 at Romulus Summit Academy North (6-2) 46.639
DIVISION 6
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Calumet (6-3) 36.111 at Kingsley (7-2) 44.444
Negaunee (6-3) 41.556 at Boyne City (7-2) 42.111
DISTRICT 2
Manistee (5-4) 37.222 at Reed City (7-2) 48.222
Standish-Sterling (6-3) 45.111 at Mason County Central (8-1) 46.431
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Montague (4-5) 35.889 at Newaygo (7-2) 48.778
Kent City (6-3) 37.986 at Central Montcalm (8-1) 43.444
DISTRICT 2
Ovid-Elsie (7-2) 42.889 at Almont (9-0) 62.333
Lansing Catholic (6-3) 46.111 at Chesaning (9-0) 46.778
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Buchanan (6-3) 38.222 at Olivet (7-2) 47.778
Constantine (6-3) 38.556 at Parchment (7-2) 40.222
DISTRICT 2
Dearborn Heights Robichaud (4-5) 36.778 at Jackson Lumen Christi (8-1) 60.302
Dearborn Advanced Tech Academy (6-3) 37.222 at Ida (8-1) 43.222
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Royal Oak Shrine Catholic (7-2) 35.000 at Warren Michigan Collegiate (8-1) 54.278
Clinton Township Clintondale (6-3) 38.000 at Marine City (7-2) 51.778
DISTRICT 2
Detroit Central (6-3) 37.778 at Detroit Edison (6-3) 47.667
Detroit Old Redford (8-1) 38.111 at Detroit Pershing (7-2) 43.444
DIVISION 7
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Houghton Lake (5-4) 30.444 at Menominee (8-1) 48.333
Charlevoix (6-3) 34.444 at Traverse City St. Francis (6-3) 41.333
DISTRICT 2
Evart (6-3) 32.000 at North Muskegon (8-1) 42.222
Harrison (7-2) 36.444 at McBain (8-1) 39.778
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Saranac (6-3) 31.778 at Ithaca (9-0) 46.000
Pewamo-Westphalia (7-2) 35.778 at Montrose (6-3) 40.694
DISTRICT 2
Elkton-Pigeon-Bay Port Laker (5-4) 29.069 at Millington (8-0) 45.264
Saginaw Valley Lutheran (5-4) 32.111 at Cass City (6-3) 33.625
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Coloma (4-5) 28.889 at Lawton (7-2) 40.333
Bronson (6-3) 32.222 at Schoolcraft (8-1) 37.931
DISTRICT 2
Napoleon (6-3) 36.556 at Hudson (8-1) 48.222
Union City (8-1) 37.889 at Hanover-Horton (8-1) 40.889
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Bath (5-4) 29.889 at Grosse Pointe Woods University Liggett (6-3) 41.583
Burton Atherton (7-2) 30.972 at Leslie (8-1) 39.444
DISTRICT 2
Blissfield (4-5) 31.778 at Monroe St. Mary Catholic Central (9-0) 58.667
Ottawa Lake Whiteford (5-4) 35.222 at Clinton (6-3) 40.333
DIVISION 8
REGION 1
DISTRICT 1
Manistique (4-5) 25.444 at Iron Mountain (9-0) 40.556
Bark River-Harris (5-4) 27.556 at East Jordan (7-2) 34.264
DISTRICT 2
Mancelona (4-5) 24.708 at Maple City Glen Lake (8-1) 38.042
Frankfort (7-2) 31.083 at Beal City (7-2) 37.333
REGION 2
DISTRICT 1
Reese (5-4) 27.403 at Fowler (9-0) 42.556
Saginaw Michigan Lutheran Seminary (6-3) 30.556 at Saginaw Nouvel Catholic Central (8-1) 38.667
DISTRICT 2
Burton Bentley (5-4) 24.750 at Clarkston Everest Collegiate (8-1) 44.111
Ubly (6-3) 32.889 at Harbor Beach (9-0) 37.778
REGION 3
DISTRICT 1
Centreville (4-5) 27.861 at Decatur (8-1) 39.819
Saugatuck (6-3) 33.000 at White Pigeon (8-1) 38.931
DISTRICT 2
Addison (4-5) 25.222 at Springport (7-2) 31.333
Sand Creek (4-5) 25.667 at Reading (5-4) 28.444
REGION 4
DISTRICT 1
Allen Park Cabrini (5-4) 24.667 at Riverview Gabriel Richard (7-1) 42.861
Manchester (7-2) 34.889 at Petersburg Summerfield (8-1) 36.444
DISTRICT 2
Marine City Cardinal Mooney (4-5) 24.111 at Rochester Hills Lutheran Northwest (6-3) 34.333
Mount Clemens (6-3) 28.000 at Detroit Loyola (3-6) 29.583
8-Player Pairings
DIVISION 1
REGION 1
Munising (6-3) 28.667 at Pickford (9-0) 38.250
Norway (7-2) 32.111 at Ishpeming (6-2) 33.583
REGION 2
Atlanta (6-3) 27.708 at Alcona (8-1) 37.556
Blanchard Montabella (6-3) 28.667 at Indian River Inland Lakes (9-0) 36.250
REGION 3
Bay City All Saints (7-2) 31.778 at Deckerville (9-0) 41.000
Fulton (8-1) 33.556 at Kingston (7-2) 34.111
REGION 4
Martin (7-1) 34.083 at Gobles (9-0) 37.500
Mendon (8-1) 34.889 at Climax-Scotts (8-1) 35.556
DIVISION 2
REGION 1
Bellaire (7-2) 28.486 at Crystal Falls Forest Park (8-1) 35.556
Gaylord St. Mary (7-2) 30.653 at Powers North Central (8-1) 34.889
REGION 2
Mio (7-2) 32.486 at Au Gres-Sims (8-1) 35.931
Marion (8-1) 32.556 at Onekama (8-1) 33.889
REGION 3
Mount Pleasant Sacred Heart (6-3) 29.333 at Grand Rapids Sacred Heart (9-0) 36.208
Portland St. Patrick (8-1) 34.556 at Morrice (8-1) 35.222
REGION 4
Adrian Lenawee Christian (4-5) 28.403 at Britton Deerfield (8-1) 35.556
Burr Oak (7-2) 29.778 at Pittsford (7-2) 31.444
PHOTO Ada Forest Hills Eastern takes the field this season for its game against Hudsonville Unity Christian. (Photo by Michigan Sports Photo.)